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[puntloos]

Note: this is fixed now, DF is safe once again

The admins at the DF server have pulled an interesting trick, they are now forcing you to download a fake(harmless) zWeb.u file. For those of you who know cheating (naughty!) (not you Leebe) (or me, for that matter ) zWeb.u is the name of a file the zellius bots use. By forcing this upload they will overwrite/disable the real zWeb.u file, if the user has one, and hey, stops cheating. Clever! Well..

Not if you're a user that plays anywhere else.

You see UTPure can not distinguish between the fake and the real zweb.u so even if you're not a cheater but you're only coming from the DF servers, you will most likely be kicked off the next server you connect to.. If not kicked you at least will definately show up as a cheater in the logs of the server.

It might be that the fake zWeb will be unloaded if you close UT after connecting to the DF server and restart. I can not make guarantees about this.

Draw your own conclusions.

btw.. for the record, I don't consider the DF admins to be 'evil' or anything, they just haven't thought their latest anticheat actions through completely. I understand the problem - currently the situation sucks, 6E is compromised and cheaters are running wild.

[ipot]

That 'BRICKWALL' as they call it works better than Pure or ASH. Tried on homeserver too and it really kicks A*S*S when i tried to go in with bot.

(and yes - i have 2 sets of UT so i can try these things. )
That BRICKWALL causes trouble if you use cachecleaner and convert those files too to your system directory.Then Pure sniffs those and - well - Your @$$ is grass...
But this is just my experiment on my compu&server,just leave those files in the cache or delete those after you leave from servers that use this protection...

[LeeBe]

hmm yeah thats all very well if you know they are there. what about all the people that dont know about it?
how many people have been caught and accused of cheating because they had an 'evil package' in their system folder? Pure logs all this stuff.

Protection like this can and probably has turned innocent people into condemmed cheaters

And its very easy to bypass, a hell of a lot easier than ASH or Pure. You can do it with one ucc command.

I dont know if DF still use this 'trick', I havent been back on their server since I downloaded these files, but if they do, theyve opened the door for cheaters with a perfect excuse. How can we catch anyone with a zWeb file now that the DF version is legit? they have the perfect excuse and any that have been caught before can now say "so thats how I got it...".

This isnt stopping cheaters, its freeing them

btw when I went on DF server they also did this with AFXradar and ELFhook

[puntloos]

Anyway my own anticheat system is more efficient than this 'Brickwall' thing. It catches everyone this brickwall system would catch and more. The only difference is that cheatersthat connect with DF server get kicked quickly while the cheaters here will have to wait and wait until their download is fully complete, then get kicked.

(and still we have tons of cheaters. sigh)

In a nutshell this 'brickwall' thing might help anticheating on the DF servers but will as leebe said give cheaters in the rest of the world a good excuse when they're caught. We simply can't allow this excuse so in this case we really have to assume 'guilty until you prove you're innocent'.

[ipot]

[LeeBe]

well, check the Hall Of Shame. we've caught 10 cheaters in the last 7 days.

well Punts new system has been up since Jul 31 and tweaked since then, so yes, its newer than 2 weeks.

we need a name for it though how about.. 'Pointless Trying'

[ipot]

Yes i have noticed - GOOD JOB!!!

[puntloos]

OK I spoke to DF and they fixed their server (removed their system)
So DF is safe once more.