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..T3 · Post more Noob Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 11

well.. its been on my mind for a while and i have seen.. him/her play afew times while ive been on and i always suspect foul play? why?..when if you look at the stats thats just a give a way.. lots i mean lots of kills ..around the high regions in most maps.. and wel.. frags that are way above the rest of the hardcore players..
there are tohres out there..come noobs. which are hardcore killers aswell. ..i do suspect a few.. but hey thats me!!

correct me if im wrong..i dont like to accuse someone..but heyit seems a bit suspicious on small maps.. and well when you have really good players aswell.. i dunno.. you guys out there.. let meknow..
may be he/she is a good player.. i aint fragged that much.. lately..but wehn i do.. i always have that gut instinct..
i m useless at the UT spotting commands..so i dont have a chance to sopt him/her..
anyone.. i just want views.. let me know

thx

T3

puntloos · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 9:52 pm Post subject:

As far as we can tell Nora Mamco is 'clean'. If he has some kind of cheat system it is a private aimbot, nothing public. And in that case, well, dunno.

I'll have to admit on the whole he's probably better than me, but not much, and I know (haha and if you don't believe me up yours Wink

) I don't bot, so I don't consider his skills 'inhuman'.

LeeBe · Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 10:45 pm Post subject:

He's good thats all.
Ive had a lot of good fights with him.

Some days he plays better than other days just like us all.

..T3 · Post more Noob Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 11

Well..i think he is a good player.. and its true you do get some good days and some baaad. and i definitely know that

i know the server has some glitches.. and well.it does affect alot of people.. but who knows.. hopefully cheaters dont prevail..and those with skill shine thru!!

i hope to frag with thim again.. and well. prove my instincts wrong??!!! or am i always a skeptic?

hahahahha...
arghhh... my guts are hurtin... is there some one cheatin out there?....

hahahha

..T3

Terraflux · Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 12:32 am Post subject:

well nor@ is just really good...............ofcourse i never can be sure of anyone cheating in our clan...(i cant check that).............but we don't into that..........we just want to have fun and a good game........i personaly just hate cheaters............ban em all............

ipot · Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 11:10 am Post subject:

Like said before - he/she aint using any common bot and i have had some good matches with him/her...good player but sad to say , camper as well...T3,dont accuse people if you cant shoot them,just learn how to aim Wink

(kidding ya know!!! )

j/k - those stats in OCA just are nuts, i have played few maps and stats on those and stats on ranking list arent same,maybe someone could tell us why death/kill count goes berserk on website??

..T3 · Post more Noob Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 11

true!!!

Unreal Goddess · Spam Please! Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 96

as far as i'm concern i know mama(i call nora as mama) is clean.
i'm not defendin' him due to the reson that he's a SDA just like
me but i've been playin' with him for a long time(while both of
us were still clanless) & i know his play very well.

9X

puntloos · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 1:33 am Post subject:

In the end there are a few 'world class' tennis players, and even though you and me are perhaps good at tennis we'd get our asses kicked. The same applies I'm sure with UT, there's always someone better than you as well. The chance that you are the absolute #1 UT player in the world, and anyone beating you regularly must be cheating is pretty slim Wink

But well pretty soon a totally new unreal tournament binary will be installed, and it will most likely be able to detect bots and cheats UTPure couldn't. I will of course be very closely monitoring the logs, so if suddenly Nora, Puntloos, Mazylis and Kokkie get kicked a few times with suspicious messages well, you'd hear about it 3 out of 4 times Wink

Nor@_mamc@ · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 7:19 am Post subject:

First of all, i'm not cheating, i never had not in real life not in virtual...In fact i hate cheaters.I am not offended by this accusation, because its hapend before and probably will again.In fact its rather compliment for me. Smile

But i m little offended, because ipot accused me a camper(if i understand wright).You practicly can't see me camping on tall bildings or some secret places, because a very very rearly use them(i don't even know much this places).The way i m playing UT is constantly running on some ways that i like on some map.I practicaly never stop.Ok there are some maps where i just stop and do a little camp Twisted Evil

, but this is in normal for all players.
I never or at least i am avoiding run in the middle of the map where croud is, because ther i became easy target, although there can i would make higers number of frags.
And i would like to say this:
I like UT very much when first come out.Before i played Quake I and II.
In that Quake times i suck, but there my motoric(keyboard-mouse)training starts.
After UT arrives i was using my family's computer(P200),so i was forced to play UT on my friends computer,but then i bought my own used C-333 with Voodoo2.When i got internet i played a lot on different server.
I played classic UT games(all weapons).BTW...i was played a lot of trainings with our national representation.But i discovered that i like more instagib and in that point i played 90% of games on istagib servers.
But when i finnaly discoverd Fraggalonia's sniper arena, i fell in love with it(when i discover PM i was in heaven Smile

).From that time i play just sniper arena.
BTW putloos has done more cheating than me. Twisted Evil

Maybe i was still with my old nick: RookYY(SLO), but it was long time ago on deck16, when punt drop in and farg like hell...i accused him cheater and i said that i hate cheaters.He told me to leave the server if i do. Sad

And i of course leave the server offended for some days Very Happy

In that point a didnt know that PM was pracicaly his server and that he is probably testing cheat protection.

ipot · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:14 am Post subject:

Sorry Nor@ - didnt ment be offensive Embarassed

puntloos · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:53 am Post subject:

Heh nope Nora, I have never ever installed a bot on my own machine.. See? I got accused of cheating by Nora - funny world.

(Ok, actually I once installed Aim Trainer (at.u) but this one doesn't work in multiplayer games.. and yes this was only cause I wanted to see if ASH worked.)

Anyway in general, botters are quite stupid. They turn on their bot and really gather 3x the kills of the second best player. Of course 3x the kills of the number 2 player is very suspicious on PM since there are plenty of OK players. On good runs I personally never got much more than 2x the kills of the #2, so I think 'more than 3x the kills' is about the point where you should get suspicious.

Of course Im sure there are semi-smart botters too who know when to stop botting because the kill levels get suspicious, but those people are usually fairly easy to spot for someone like me, cause I find that at moment A I get totally killed and don't get a shot in, while at moment B I kick his ass 3 out of 4 confrontations.

Unreal Goddess · Spam Please! Joined: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 96

LeeBe · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 1:39 pm Post subject:

cLeAner · Post more Noob Joined: 02 Apr 2003 Posts: 17

I just wanna to say...stop complaning about ppl cheating...just kill em´all !!!

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