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LeeBe UT Celebrity
Joined: 28 Apr 2002 Posts: 2170 Game Trophies: 2
Location: North East England
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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milo{TSU} wrote: | And going of saying we are gay doesnt make it easier either. There was a misunderstanding. That can happen you know. |
uh you erased his high scores, and didnt even have the curtesy to ask/tell him then you guys banned him from the forums and didnt mention a thing still....
I think calling you guys gay was pretty light Im sure I wouldve been a lot more 'colourfull'
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roba Angelina's Man
Joined: 14 Apr 2002 Posts: 3240 Game Trophies: 2
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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roger that....
Quote: | Hey even you said there might be something wrong with the times ... guess i noticed it too. |
well ok, but if you thought its a bug, why u deleted all his scores without telling him anything?
Imho, problem was that instead of asking him about it, you (TSU) deleted ALL his scores without giving him any info and then banned him from forum coz of one comment (in Arcade Topscores) which was apparently reaction to your previous actions.
BTW if it was misunderstanding (and I know it can happen), why was no one trying to solve it? I mean that thread at TSU, why no one replied to us with some releated info? Why is Zed STILL banned on your forum? Why is my thread closed? I was not flaming or something, I was politely asking what happend. And I did not get an answer (well I ve got it here from you, thanks, but not there).
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Zed UT Noobie
Joined: 14 Apr 2002 Posts: 2099 Game Trophies: 2
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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ok let me explain.
Well I play on your arcade for what 2-3 weeks, just messing around, making high scores in some of the games and then come in one day and they are all gone, of course it doesn't matter to much, but for you to just erase them without asking, what do you expect? I guess I should have said worse. I didn't really think loser was too bad.
Oh the lovely TSU, those nice people just assume I'm a cheat/i mean errrrr..... fishy and erased my scores, oh well, it's all nice and all. You could have just asked me how I did it, I would have explained, my method of gameplay.
So you wanna know how to score alot of points in tetris? Hell I can get 100k in my sleep........
The whole game is based on getting tetris's 4 lines at a time, you get a ton more points for those, and that's all I try to do, I just match up the pieces and then when a line comes I put it in there, and I do it faster by using the little down arrow on the keyboard. Is it really my fault that tetris has been out for oh what, 20 years now? I played it on nintendo, I can't help it if I beat the other scores by 10 times as much, it's just easy for me, what can I say. Now you can sit atop your letter tetris crown and now you'll never be beat, since of course if anyone does, they are "fishy"
But why erase just fishy scores....... I think you were just assuming I cheated, so whatever..... I'll carry on.
That's such a stupid excuse, it's like going into UT as a noob, losing to a bunch of ppl who have been playing for years, and calling them a cheat, oh wait, just fishy, because they beat your ass.
So we'll ban them temporarily, until we figure out why they are so good, just on a hunch by the way, whatever, like you said, it's a stupid flash game, why not ask first and just say, you know what zed, your score is a little high, what gives?
Did you ever think if I was "fishy" at tetris, why I couldnt do to good at any other games? Why only tetris? I mean use your brain....... Why just get the top scores in one game? Why not all of them, that would of made a hell of alot more sense right?
Also why would I want to cheat at some stupid flash game? To impress you guys? Yeah that's it!!!! Man.... I was just playing it because I like tetris, figured I would give someone a challenge, and didn't really think one could ever be accused of cheating at tetris, oh well proves me wrong. So I'm banned for calling you guys losers in my comments, I'll try to make it more worth it this time around...
Whoever and whoever banned me... I'm sorry that I called you losers. I'm sorry you can't take one little comment, and can't stand getting your ass whipped in some stupid little tetris game, I'm sorry that you suck too much in tetris and have to just assume I'm cheating. I only called you gay, because I was saying "Hah happy tsu" hah yeah right huh? (I hope you detect the sarcasm...)
I'm sure you, and I emphasize you, since I didn't even direct loser at anyone, just in general, have been called alot worse than loser, maybe something like b**ch, f*ckwad, stupid wh*re, dumbs**t, a**wipe, candya**, crackh*e, stupid c*nt. And yeah loser takes the cake, sure that's why I got banned.
Just like you thought my scores were only fishy........if they were just fishy, why erase them? Why not just bring it to my attention.....
Here I'll give you a real reason to ban me:
Quote: | You bunch of sore losing, no one can be as good as me, because if they are we'll just get rid of them, place where oh we'll get rid of them, but then if someone complains, we'll just say we're sorry and it will make us look all good again, guilty til proven innocent, all around fucks I suppose... get of your all high mighty stool of shit and stop thinking the world revolves around your clan and get over yourselves. Hopefully that is worth the ban, not just for calling you a loser. |
Now don't get me wrong I did like a few of the members in TSu, but come on what a bitter taste you guys as a clan, have left. I'm sure it was a majority decision, or maybe not, if it was, grow a backbone, I would have laughed at the person who said lets delete <insert names> scores, because no one can come close to beating them.
Just scratch that last line, because I changed my mind, I dont like any of you guys.
Sheeesh
Is that a better reason for getting banned, I sure hope so, if it isn't I can try again.
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Wayzor slow player *cough*wayz*cough*
Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 781 Game Trophies: 3
Location: Manchester
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:39 am Post subject: |
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So what ya said in the high score message box was this right? Quote: | why not erased all my other scores, losers... |
Hell I would of not only banned you, I would of had ur ISP on the phone over that pal.......absolutley despicable!!!! LMAO
Still I guess your into making up for lost ground with these posts bud
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LeeBe UT Celebrity
Joined: 28 Apr 2002 Posts: 2170 Game Trophies: 2
Location: North East England
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:40 am Post subject: |
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welcome back Zed
wait a minute... have you been hacking your post count??
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Zed UT Noobie
Joined: 14 Apr 2002 Posts: 2099 Game Trophies: 2
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:43 am Post subject: |
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thanks lee, referring to 1377?
I cheated at my posts............
maybe I should load up ut again so I can get myself banned from the tsu server too, if I'm gonna do it I might as well do it right.
hah yeah wayzor, i think it was something like, Quote: | woohoo, too bad my other scores were erased. Losers! |
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Wayzor slow player *cough*wayz*cough*
Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 781 Game Trophies: 3
Location: Manchester
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:52 am Post subject: |
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OCA ZED wrote: | thanks lee, referring to 1377?
I cheated at my posts............
maybe I should load up ut again so I can get myself banned from the tsu server too, if I'm gonna do it I might as well do it right.
hah yeah wayzor, i think it was something like, Quote: | woohoo, too bad my other scores were erased. Losers! |
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Damn right ya should load it up dude........if only for some brief shits n giggles!!!
Do it.....it's a dare now Hehehe.
The installing UT I mean.................If ya wanna go getting urself banned, well, thats your call. Personaly I couldn't be arsed lol
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Zon{TSU} Damn Noobie
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Hey guys how's it going?
Just registered here to reply and participate in your forums from time to time.
I am sad to see that yet another misunderstanding/disagreement has happened in our community, but especially bummed about it being with you guys here in OCA because I have a great deal of respect for all members of OCA. You are all very good people in my honest opinion.
Anyhow I just wanted to say that I hope this can be sorted out with minnimal damage because there is no reason why we should let something like this come between our friendships.
I honestly am not 100% clear on how this chain of events happend but I did read some interpretations regarding it.
I would like to humbly propose that we "try again" and back up a few steps here to right whatever wrongs seem to have happened.
I think Zed makes a good point by explaining himself about the Tetris score. Milo on the same token was in shock about the score verses the time it took to make the score happen because she plays tetris a lot. Etc.. etc.. I also have to agree that perhaps some anger regarding Zed's ban could on some levels be quite justified because "Who wouldnt" feel that way... Yet... It is never the "only" option one has to lash out with the anger with abusive comments either. There ARE other ways to deal with things like this such as the ones you already mentioned about talking it over before banning you for example... etc. etc. . . (Although it is harder to hold back when one feels they have been wronged so I understand that Zed might have reacted the way he did) Or, since that apparently wasnt an option then being the bigger man and coming and sorting it on your own account with whoever would discuss it (But there again... not expected for obvious reasons.. Nobody would blame you for not wanting to)
If an ERR in judgement was made on one of the members of TSU as described above, than for that I am sincerely appologetic. We are all just human here and we do make mistakes... Everyone does sometimes.
"To err is human, to forgive is Godlike". (Slight change of the old quote, but you know what I mean )
Anyhow it's nice to register here and have a look around. You guys have a nice forum and I look forward to checking everything out some more.
If you want to contact me personally please feel free to email me at: zon_300@hotmail.com but I am not sure how much help I can be other than assist in relaying back and fourth. I am not sure who was involved in your ban but I am very hopeful that we can resolve this peacefully. There is no need to harbor any long term disregard for each other especially when it comes to a simple flash game, some perhaps over assertive banning, and some harsh comments that followed. That is my opinion on it, I wanted you to know where I stand on it. Basically I would just like to see this get settled peacefully with both sides doing the right thing. Whether that happens or not unfortunately isnt entirely up to me, but I am hoping for the best.
Regards,
Zon
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milo Post more Noob
Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 24
Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:18 am Post subject: |
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nice you still hold grudges against zane Zed ... guess it was obvious
Zane had nothing to do with it... he didnt even know about it and still doesnt. I asked about your scores, Poops deleted them. And then apparently you made that remark and poops banned you. I didnt even know what happened untill Leebe or Roba asked about it.
And you are not listening to what i said: i said there was something fishy about the times, NOT YOU CHEATING!!! For Gods sake dude i never accused you of cheating in public nor in private and other TSU can verify that. And dont ever ttry to "assume" what i'm thinking or what happened cuz apperently you dont know sh!t
I know you dont like any TSU. We were very good friends at some point. Then you emailed me at work one day saying you didnt want to ahve anything to do with me anymore just because i was TSU. And all TSU were bs and whatever and i never did anything wrong to you. NEVER! So you threw away a good friendship because of the tag i was wearing. A few days later you came back saying you didnt want to give up the friendship over a tag but for me it was too late. If you honestly wanted me to take off the tag to keep the friendship you're not even worth having as a friend and that's what i told you then. You really hurt my feelings back then. I never did anything of that sort to you, not even now.
But you are accusing me of things i didnt do. I asked to have a look at it and 1 person decided to take action. No overall decision and Zane had nothing to do with it. I talked to Goku last night and i asked him to take of my score as well .... so i dont give a flying f*ck about the scores. If i see something that doesnt seem right to me i ask other ppls opinions before i actually come forward and say something in public.
But if you still feel about TSU the way you felt over a year ago ... why even bother?
And why are you being like this now? I said it was a misunderstanding. I guess you are being your a$$hole self again
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milo Post more Noob
Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 24
Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:26 am Post subject: |
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OCA ZED wrote: |
I'm sure you, and I emphasize you, since I didn't even direct loser at anyone, just in general, have been called alot worse than loser, maybe something like b**ch, f*ckwad, stupid wh*re, dumbs**t, a**wipe, candya**, crackh*e, stupid c*nt. And yeah loser takes the cake, sure that's why I got banned.
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thx a lot for these names , especially because i didnt ban you or erased your scores.
I never did anything wrong to you Zed so i dont understand where your anger towards me comes from.
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milo Post more Noob
Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 24
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:31 am Post subject: |
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roba wrote: | roger that....
Quote: | Hey even you said there might be something wrong with the times ... guess i noticed it too. |
well ok, but if you thought its a bug, why u deleted all his scores without telling him anything?
Imho, problem was that instead of asking him about it, you (TSU) deleted ALL his scores without giving him any info and then banned him from forum coz of one comment (in Arcade Topscores) which was apparently reaction to your previous actions.
BTW if it was misunderstanding (and I know it can happen), why was no one trying to solve it? I mean that thread at TSU, why no one replied to us with some releated info? Why is Zed STILL banned on your forum? Why is my thread closed? I was not flaming or something, I was politely asking what happend. And I did not get an answer (well I ve got it here from you, thanks, but not there). |
roba, i dont know.
GK closed it because we were trying to find out what happened. He closed it before i saw it too.
As i said in my previous post, i didnt know about the ban untill later so that's why i only replied here. I think i just took the decency to come over here and explain what happened. Then when i saw what was/is written here .
Why it was closed? Probably because other ppl were jumping in before we even knew what was going on. Guess GK wanted to buy time to find out what did happen. So we were trying to solve it.
I said what happened cuz i just found out... and we were trying to solve it ... then this flame?
But do you really think this flaming helps? It was a misunderstanding but calling me names like that ... well what would you do now?
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roba Angelina's Man
Joined: 14 Apr 2002 Posts: 3240 Game Trophies: 2
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:23 am Post subject: |
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@Zon
Thanks for your post and welcome to our forum.
@Milo
What would I do? If you are asking what I would do if I was TSU (not directly you), then at the first place, I would stop saying IF when speaking about misjudgement of Zed's scores, becouse unless you have some evidence about it (which I doubt), it was just a mistake. Then I would apologize for my mistakes (inlcuding ban) and I would also have to swallow bitter pill of that Zed's post, becouse I would know that it was my fault.
Anyway I am done with this topic, becouse it is obvious there are some old issues behind this "drama"...
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Zed UT Noobie
Joined: 14 Apr 2002 Posts: 2099 Game Trophies: 2
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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i'll just post this one last remark....
Quote: | nice you still hold grudges against zane Zed ... guess it was obvious |
I am not even near petty enough to have "very old" drama be the reason for my post.... so don't even give me that. So whatever is obvious to you, isn't to me, But if you want to think that then fine.
I'm not even going to go there..............
I said those things, because quite frankly I COULD, and I felt like saying them at the time, no I don't take it back or regret them, yeah I suppose I am just an asshole, but hey that's just me.
Believe it or not I can't believe all this crap started over some stupid scores, quite frankly it's not worth it, but what's done is done.
I said those things because you come over here and say blah, blah, blah, how everything was just fishy and a misunderstanding, and GK says in his post how it will be looked into and they apologize and crap, yet.............. I am still banned from your forum, and for what?? Saying loser, in my comment, (and I note, not even directed at anyone, just in general) Gimme a fucking break.
I know all of you have the power to unban someone in your forum, so why not just unban me, and prove you were sorry, I would have never even posted what I did, I would have said ya know what, fine.......
Actions speak louder than words ya know?
Anyways this isn't an OCA vs TSU thing, or anything Zon, this is a me being totally wronged and me not even being pissed off about it, but just using strong language, because quite frankly, I figured I would get the most out of my ban. Big of me? Probably not, but I felt like being childish, oh well what can one do.
Quote: | It was a misunderstanding but calling me names like that ... well what would you do now? | Look don't even give me that I was calling you out personally when I said that, I said it in general to whomever was reading, so that's just that, said it to say it, was the second post directed at you, ummm yeah, but quite frankly that was just to irritate the hell out of you Milo, and only because you tell me all this how it was just fishy and such, (but I'm still banned because I called the general public loser, nah I just didn't buy that reason), not because I have any anonimosty towards you to this day. Do you really think I give two flying fucks about something that happened a year ago, in some UT based online world, ummmm no..............
And I even have proof to back that up, not that it matters, lol, there was much bigger word wars than this, this doesn't even touch the tip of that iceberg, and yes I am friends with the other party of those wars, so.... yeah......that's that huh.
Look when I'm wrong I can admit it. So for that one post, yes I am sorry and I deleted it.
So drama or no drama, apologies or not, whether this gets fixed or doesnt, quite honestly I don't give a shit, I mean no two wrongs doesn't make a right but you can't even start putting this shit on me, none of it, because I had nothing but wrong put on me and so I lashed out.... What's one to do? Take it and suck it up? MAybe for some, maybe for most, but for me... Ha no, that's just not me, I don't hold grudges but I don't sit back and get walked all over.
Quote: | Here is my condensed viewpoint.
Zed strolling along, playing arcade games just to have fun, not posting, not strarting anything, hell not even saying anything.
Bam!! blindsided and all scores erased.
Thinks............ whatever I'll just do them again.
Doh.........................Banned...................
and for what? Oh I dunno.
Thinks, oh great that's just lovely. How nice.
Post innocently. On "OCA" boards, just as a joke really, I could have cared less if anyone said anything or not.
GK says something like sorry if this was all a misunderstanding or what not, some people post comments, etc..... I think oh well, it's all good right.
LALa still banned..........
Milo posts on OCA message boards saying what not, fishy, probably misunderstanding......
Fine it's all fixed.
Lalala still banned...............
Zed decides that actions don't reflect what is being said and wants to make a mockery out of the ban. So does.
ANd here we are now.
Was I out of line. IMO no way, it should have been said sooner, but I sucked it up, because honestly I didn't care and still dont, but figure I would get a few people fired up, why? Just cuz I can. Does that make me an asshole? Probably, but I didn't fire the first shot, so don't blame me entirely. |
Alright I've wasted enough time on this crap
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milo Post more Noob
Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 24
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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i didnt unban you because i didnt ban you and in tsu it's still a policy that the person who banned someone unbans them too.
Like i said: we were looking into it and we were trying to find out what happened. But you wanted to have the last word and lash out. Yes we made the mistake and i said that in my previous posts too.
But tell me honestly ... if things were the other way around and i start bashing you or your clan ... what would you do? Unban them? You said yourself you dont let ppl walk all over you. Well guess what, we dont let that happen either. I guess i did say sorry before but you just didnt want to hear that. You wanted to put in some more. You can delete your posts all you want and say you didnt direct them at me ... so who are you calling "you" in your post?
Quote: | I'm sure you, and I emphasize you, since I didn't even direct loser at anyone, just in general, have been called alot worse than loser, maybe something like b**ch, f*ckwad, stupid wh*re, dumbs**t, a**wipe, candya**, crackh*e, stupid c*nt. And yeah loser takes the cake, sure that's why I got banned. |
Roba, this thing didnt start because of "old drama". It would be indeed a different situation if i did blantantly accuse him of cheating and banning him myself .... but i didnt. I said it was a misunderstanding and that we are trying to solve it.
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Goku{tsu} Damn Noobie
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Hey OCA, just want to sort this thing out before it ruin any friendship between our two clans.
Please don't point any fingers at Milo because she has done nothing wrong. She did everything in the most respectful way as possible. As for Zed's scores. It was brought up because it looks fishy considering the time and the score which those games were played. Now, i'm no Tetris expert so i don't know the secrets of getting high score with minimum time but at the time it does looks fishy considering recently how alot of arcade games in our board were hacked just because people can put thier names at no.1 spot in the high score or simply wants to make trouble. So yeah, we were edgy and cautious about it because we don't want these things to ruin the fun for other people. Eventually Poops made a judgement and decided to delete the high scores that seem reasonably suspicious. A day later, Zed's remark only makes things worse by pissing Poops off. Like you said, two wrongs don't make a right. It's just an arcade game right? Then why are you lashing out over an arcade game score? But instead, you go piss off an admin... not just an admin but someone who has put so much time and energy in the whole board so that it is enjoyable for everyone in the community. I'm not trying to blame everything on Zed but just trying to point out how this could have been avoided. Althought his reaction was understandable but it was not necessary. A simple "why was my score deleted?" post would have been brought to our attention.
If you want to be unbanned, you can contact Poops at fomo_son@hotmail.com and sort things out like adults because it is our policy that the person who banned someone unbans them too.
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